04.06.23 Sheriff Prummell and Deputy Billy
On April 6th, 2023, at 9:00 AM, Sheriff Bill Prummell and Deputy Bill Prummell, Jr. came out to the island for an Info Central Town Hall on law enforcement. Joining them was Fire Chief Jason Fair and Michael Davis, Deputy Chief of Operations (Public Safety). Here’s what was discussed:
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Sheriff Prummell spoke about Hurricane Ian and the aftermath:
We were lucky we did not get the storm surge from Ian. In Charlotte County, 75% of residents live on or near the shore. If storm hit further north, 75% of County would have been under water. When you hear the call to evacuate – get out. 34 residents stayed on LGI, lucky they stayed alive. After the storm, mutual aid for CCSO came from all around the state. They move in to provide safety and security, also to give the CCSO staff a break so they can take care of their homes. Sheriff Prummell lost his home in the storm. We already had a construction boom before the storm and now repairs are swamping local contractors. |
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Many contractors moved in from out of state so CCSO has been getting reports of lots of scams and theft of service. Be cautious: bring your fishing gear and things you store on boats inside and secure it.
It is extra difficult for law enforcement now because they were already short on staff. Lack of applicants has CCSO competing with Lee & Sarasota for workers. They are presently investing in a real crime intelligence center, hiring analysts responding to major crime. CCSO has access to all of the cameras in all of the schools.
Deputy Billy spoke about local law enforcement issues:
This is Deputy BIlly's twelfth year down here. Previously, he was part of an undercover surveillance team with the Private Investigations Unit. It was a big change for him coming out here. His patrol territory includes Palm Island, LGI and the north end of Boca Grande. When Billy is on the island, you will get a rapid response to your call. If a call comes in when he’s working, CCSO will dispatch Billy to the Island. He will come out here to respond. He can get here on an after-hours call. You may get a phone call from a deputy if the incident is after the fact, but in an active disturbance they will come. He familiarized deputies with all equipment available on the Island. Billy adjusts his schedule to be around more during spring break period. It is too hard to dedicate a deputy to the Island because they are spread thin.
It is extra difficult for law enforcement now because they were already short on staff. Lack of applicants has CCSO competing with Lee & Sarasota for workers. They are presently investing in a real crime intelligence center, hiring analysts responding to major crime. CCSO has access to all of the cameras in all of the schools.
Deputy Billy spoke about local law enforcement issues:
This is Deputy BIlly's twelfth year down here. Previously, he was part of an undercover surveillance team with the Private Investigations Unit. It was a big change for him coming out here. His patrol territory includes Palm Island, LGI and the north end of Boca Grande. When Billy is on the island, you will get a rapid response to your call. If a call comes in when he’s working, CCSO will dispatch Billy to the Island. He will come out here to respond. He can get here on an after-hours call. You may get a phone call from a deputy if the incident is after the fact, but in an active disturbance they will come. He familiarized deputies with all equipment available on the Island. Billy adjusts his schedule to be around more during spring break period. It is too hard to dedicate a deputy to the Island because they are spread thin.
Left to Right: Michael Davis (Deputy Chief of Operations, Public Safety), Deputy Billy Prummell ("BP3"), Sheriff Bill Prummell, Fire Chief Jason Fair, Eddie Diaz and George Bartlett (Station 10 Firefighters)
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Topic: Golf Carts.
The law for golf carts will be changing soon. Golf carting will require a driver’s license. Renters need to know. Adults can be held liable for criminal citation. Do you have capability to ticket now for underage drivers? Yes. Topic: Dogs on the beach. Dogs are allowed on the beach but MUST be on a leash. This applies County-wide. Billy will initiate a report but according to Michael Davis, Deputy Chief of Operations (Public Safety), Animal Control has to handle the issue. If it’s a repeat offender, they can ticket. For interference with shorebird nesting and turtle nesting, FWC gets involved. Even if Billy is here on patrol, animal control has to be called to come out for dog complaints. Question: Aren’t the animals gone by the time they get there? That will most likely be the case. Take a photo of the dog! The more information you can provide to animal control, the better equipped they are to deal with it. They all have the same dispatcher - - same communication center. If it’s an emergency, dial 911. Otherwise dial Sheriff’s dispatch. |
Topic: Driving on the beach. Deputy Billy checks on vehicle tracks on the beach that are not tracks from the CCSO off-road vehicle. Question: are pedal assist bikes are allowed on the beach? Yes. Electric wheelchairs are not considered a motor vehicle on the beach.
Topic: Debris pickup & Illegal Dumping. Reporting is sent to Billy, but this is mostly a timing issue where the debris piles were placed after the deadline for County removal. There is rarely intent. There is no violation unless they can make the case of intent i.e. contractor dumping on empty roads, vacant lots.
The Economic Crimes Unit is investigating contractor scams. Billy will share information with community about contractors that are involved when they are confident the case is made. During a state of emergency, out-of-state contractors are allowed to operate under another licensed contractor. Billy will post links for contractors who are licensed and insured in FL.
Topic: Debris pickup & Illegal Dumping. Reporting is sent to Billy, but this is mostly a timing issue where the debris piles were placed after the deadline for County removal. There is rarely intent. There is no violation unless they can make the case of intent i.e. contractor dumping on empty roads, vacant lots.
The Economic Crimes Unit is investigating contractor scams. Billy will share information with community about contractors that are involved when they are confident the case is made. During a state of emergency, out-of-state contractors are allowed to operate under another licensed contractor. Billy will post links for contractors who are licensed and insured in FL.
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Topic: Speeding traffic. Lots of times it looks like people are speeding but radar does not show them breaking the speed limit. In part, the dust clouds help create the appearance of high speed. Enforcement of speed limit is difficult here. They have to establish abuse of speed limit, then explore traffic mitigation options. Comment: If tickets for speeding were issued, word would get around and discourage speeding. Billy uses speeding warnings with discretion. The Sheriff could establish a policy of no more warnings for speeding, but that means the policy will be enforced equally for all. The actual speed limit is 25 MPH on North Gulf, 20 MPH everywhere else. Comment: R&B had requested all of the speed limits be lowered and the County turned them down. 639-2101 (check) non-emergency number.
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Other misc. Bring to Billy’s attention any places where he may need to establish “directed patrol”.
Billy participates in marine emergency response. The Coast Guard support equipment is less up-to-date than CCSO. CCSO has air support with helicopters and harnesses for water rescue.
If something is going on, don’t wait to see Billy. Call the sheriff’s dispatch non-emergency number. A deputy would rather come out and find out it’s a minor issue than to wait and find out it was a major incident. At that point it’s too late to follow up. If there’s an active situation, the barge will hold for CCSO. Also, they have a dock available to bring the marine unit.
In a storm, particularly with a storm surge, EMS comes off the Island. 911 service stops at 45 mph sustained winds. When they make the decision to call for evacuation, get out. Try to be proactive and get out early. Heed the warnings.
Billy participates in marine emergency response. The Coast Guard support equipment is less up-to-date than CCSO. CCSO has air support with helicopters and harnesses for water rescue.
If something is going on, don’t wait to see Billy. Call the sheriff’s dispatch non-emergency number. A deputy would rather come out and find out it’s a minor issue than to wait and find out it was a major incident. At that point it’s too late to follow up. If there’s an active situation, the barge will hold for CCSO. Also, they have a dock available to bring the marine unit.
In a storm, particularly with a storm surge, EMS comes off the Island. 911 service stops at 45 mph sustained winds. When they make the decision to call for evacuation, get out. Try to be proactive and get out early. Heed the warnings.
04.06.23 Commissioner Bill Truex
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On Thursday, April 6th Info Central hosted a town hall meeting with Commissioner Bill Truex to give Islanders an opportunity to ask questions about local issues. The Commissioner introduced himself as the Chairman of the Board of County Commissioners. He has been a commissioner for 11 years and a resident of the area for 32 years.
First topic: Hurricane recovery. The county is swamped with permit requests. There were 30,000 permits in February alone. Five consultants have been hired for permit reviews. Also, the process has been modified to allow for more review time – an additional two hours per day. Roofing permits and inspections are easy. The permits can be issued electronically and inspections can be done by affidavit. Remember, you must pull a permit for your rebuild. If you do not have a permit, your insurance company will not cover it. Make sure you hire local contractors who know the permit regulations. Question: Are we getting any additional assistance for hurricane debris vegetation clean-up including on private roads? They have no plan for any additional cleanup at this time. They are done. |
Comment: The county did a great job on clearing the road right-of-ways. Commissioner Truex said that their contractor was great. They had over 225 units in this community. In his estimation, it was the fastest cleanup ever. County staff and the contractors deserve much kudos.
Question: Will the debris in the canals be cleared?
Charlotte County hired a contractor who had to be fired, causing a delay in the process. Recently the state took over canal clearing operations. All of the canals will be cleared, both natural and man-made. The state will be reimbursed by the federal government for the cleanup. However, it will take some time to get to all of the canals. The Commissioner’s office will get contact information to PIE for the state cleanup.
Question: We have issues with folks clearing lots and putting it out for debris pickup. Also, there are debris piles left on the sand roads in front of homes and vacant lots. What can CC do?
Contact Commissioner Truex to research the addresses of the vacant lots and he will see if it can be removed.
Question: Resident’s homeowners’ insurance would not renew and their agent said that no one is writing in Charlotte County now for the barrier islands. What can they do?
Commissioner Truex said it was not safe to go without coverage, particularly liability insurance for workers on site. Tower Hill and Universal are Florida-based insurance companies. You may contact Key Agency for details.
Question: Will the debris in the canals be cleared?
Charlotte County hired a contractor who had to be fired, causing a delay in the process. Recently the state took over canal clearing operations. All of the canals will be cleared, both natural and man-made. The state will be reimbursed by the federal government for the cleanup. However, it will take some time to get to all of the canals. The Commissioner’s office will get contact information to PIE for the state cleanup.
Question: We have issues with folks clearing lots and putting it out for debris pickup. Also, there are debris piles left on the sand roads in front of homes and vacant lots. What can CC do?
Contact Commissioner Truex to research the addresses of the vacant lots and he will see if it can be removed.
Question: Resident’s homeowners’ insurance would not renew and their agent said that no one is writing in Charlotte County now for the barrier islands. What can they do?
Commissioner Truex said it was not safe to go without coverage, particularly liability insurance for workers on site. Tower Hill and Universal are Florida-based insurance companies. You may contact Key Agency for details.
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Question: There was a “work camp” set up on a vacant lot across from the canal. The contractor’s workers are living there. How long is the emergency code regarding trailers and campers in effect?
The emergency regulation put in effect which allows campers and trailers on lots during the rebuilds is only for residents. It is not in effect for contractors or workers. Contact the county to notify them. Question: Can we prevent clearing of mangroves and installation of sea walls on properties? Seawalls are allowed by the state on man-made canals. Mitigation is required when mangroves are cut for seawall installation. However, if the regulations are followed sea wall installations are permitted. Preventing sea walls would be an incursion on private property rights. |
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Question: Please explain Charlotte County’s neighborhood planning program and the benefits for Island stakeholders. Also briefly describe procedures.
Many of the issues that Islanders face may be proactively avoided in the future by coming together to produce a neighborhood plan. Will the county support community planning on the island? Commissioner Truex brought a copy of the Community Plan first developed in 2004. He stated that there is currently no funding for the County’s neighborhood planning program. However, he stated that the Island Streets and Drainage MSTU has funding that can be made available for planning. The first step would be to introduce what community planning is and how it is done to the Island stakeholders. We can ask one of the community development staff members at the county to present at a town hall meeting hosted by Info Central.
Question: What is the status of the old Fire House?
The Old Firehouse will be torn down because it is unsafe, and the property will be surplused meaning it will go to sale. However, it is not a priority so it will not happen quickly.
Question: Can the property be donated to the Bocilla Islands Conservancy Inc.?
The Board of County Commissioners will consider it.
Question: Red tide is aggravated by the agricultural run-off coming from Lake O releases. The C-43 reservoir will help, also conservation land for filtration. The Kissimmee River needs to be straightened. There are currently 5 state projects ongoing. What is the County doing about water quality and red tide?
Charlotte County has hired Brandon Moody, water quality expert formerly of SWFMD. He is testing around Charlotte County and building a plan. The water is dirty here. The problem is septics along the Peace River. The County sewage treatment systems are being upgraded to Advanced Wastewater Treatment systems.
Many of the issues that Islanders face may be proactively avoided in the future by coming together to produce a neighborhood plan. Will the county support community planning on the island? Commissioner Truex brought a copy of the Community Plan first developed in 2004. He stated that there is currently no funding for the County’s neighborhood planning program. However, he stated that the Island Streets and Drainage MSTU has funding that can be made available for planning. The first step would be to introduce what community planning is and how it is done to the Island stakeholders. We can ask one of the community development staff members at the county to present at a town hall meeting hosted by Info Central.
Question: What is the status of the old Fire House?
The Old Firehouse will be torn down because it is unsafe, and the property will be surplused meaning it will go to sale. However, it is not a priority so it will not happen quickly.
Question: Can the property be donated to the Bocilla Islands Conservancy Inc.?
The Board of County Commissioners will consider it.
Question: Red tide is aggravated by the agricultural run-off coming from Lake O releases. The C-43 reservoir will help, also conservation land for filtration. The Kissimmee River needs to be straightened. There are currently 5 state projects ongoing. What is the County doing about water quality and red tide?
Charlotte County has hired Brandon Moody, water quality expert formerly of SWFMD. He is testing around Charlotte County and building a plan. The water is dirty here. The problem is septics along the Peace River. The County sewage treatment systems are being upgraded to Advanced Wastewater Treatment systems.
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Question: Please explain the Commission’s actions regarding the density hearing on February 28, 2023 for West Charlotte County. The information that was circulating regarding increased density to West County was not accurate. The higher density designation applied only to 3 pre-approved areas that already had special zoning allowing the higher density, which could not be modified.
Question: Please explain the new FEMA flood zone maps and it may impact Island stakeholders. The new flood zone maps went into effect on December 15, 2022. They can be viewed on the Charlotte County website. Essentially, the elevation level for first floor of building was lowered by 1.15’. Other misc: The Eldridge Marina property sale fell through. Across the street, 4.4 acres were purchased by Charlotte County. They will be putting in a new boat ramp there. Inquiries were made to the County by Boca Grande residents regarding putting in a cell tower at the north end of Boca. Nothing can be done about the number of storage units going up on the mainland. Message the Commissioners for details regarding 1. Reimbursement by FEMA for debris removal or 2. FEMA housing. |
Mini-CERT Training Session
The mini-CERT (Community Emergency Response Team) training on 3.25.19 was amazing! Nearly 2 hours of hands-on learning including how to use a fire extinguisher, how to perform CPR and how to pack a wound and or apply a tourniquet. The Charlotte County team was top-rate, and everyone who attended were glad that they did. Don't miss it next time!
Recap of PIE’s Info Central Meeting - April 25, 2018
Palm Island Clubhouse
On April 25th representatives from Three Charlotte County Departments made presentations to a very large and receptive audience. This Seminar was sponsored by PIE’s Info- Central Committee. Thank you to Barbara DeYulio, Lou Ellen Wilson, Dave Mulvaney, Sally B Johnson and the Palm Island Resort.
Ellen Pinder – Charlotte County Community Emergency Response Teams (CERTS).
This program offers training to Charlotte County Residents in the following areas:
will provide free of charge training on the island provided we have a minimum of 15 participants.
Go to their website: charlottecountycert@gmail.com for full information regarding this program.
She urged everyone to sign up for Alert Charlotte – which provides accurate information regarding storms/fires, etc. that will affect our island – local TV stations give information for areas that could be several miles away.
Dee Hawkins – Charlotte County Fire & EMS – reviewed programs available to Charlotte County Residents
When calling 911 – use landline if available – their system will show the location immediately. If calling from a cell phone be sure to give the correct full STREET address – do not say Palm or Gulf Blvd make sure you identify it as Palm Drive and Gulf Blvd North, etc. Within Charlotte County there are several streets with the name Palm or Gulf, etc. Also identify that you are on Palm Island Resort, Don Pedro, or Knight Island -
Stressed: DO NOT DRIVE TO FIRE STATION OR BARGE – wait for EMS personnel to come to the address given. DO NOT GO DIRECTLY TO THE FIRE STATION. Call 911, fire station personnel could be on another call, doing island inspections, etc.
Texting available – however use only when unable to talk – one example: a home invasion and you are hiding in a closet.
Magic Jack phone systems MUST have your FL address.
NON EMERGENCY TELEPHONE #: (941) 639-0013
Regarding 911 Calls
Rescue 14 gets called first because they have the ambulance which will transport you to a medical facility. The 911 operators will also inform station #10 and they will be contacted on every call regarding our Island. They will administer to you while the ambulance is enroute. Only the ambulance can transport you.
If you go to Fire Station #10, and knock on the door, they still have to call for the ambulance( Rescue 14) and precious time is wasted. CALL 911. They emphasized that we should not hesitate to make a 911 call. When in doubt….CALL. They will evaluate your situation and if you don’t need to be transported by ambulance you may decide that someone drive you. They are here to help us any way they can, but call 911 first.
Be specific as to your address: Street number, Street name, Knight Island, Don Pedro Island, Palm Island Resort. Palm Island Resort is located on Knight Island. You can also say Station #10 is on Island.
In An Emergency your address information needs to be clearly posted in your home for friends and family.
Palm Island Clubhouse
On April 25th representatives from Three Charlotte County Departments made presentations to a very large and receptive audience. This Seminar was sponsored by PIE’s Info- Central Committee. Thank you to Barbara DeYulio, Lou Ellen Wilson, Dave Mulvaney, Sally B Johnson and the Palm Island Resort.
Ellen Pinder – Charlotte County Community Emergency Response Teams (CERTS).
This program offers training to Charlotte County Residents in the following areas:
- What to expect following a major disaster in terms of immediate service
- Training in lifesaving skills with emphasis on Disaster Preparedness, proper use of fire extinguishers, rescuer safety, light search and rescue and doing the greatest good for the greatest number as well as first aid including stopping a bleed out, how to recognize stroke and heart attack victims, etc..
will provide free of charge training on the island provided we have a minimum of 15 participants.
Go to their website: charlottecountycert@gmail.com for full information regarding this program.
She urged everyone to sign up for Alert Charlotte – which provides accurate information regarding storms/fires, etc. that will affect our island – local TV stations give information for areas that could be several miles away.
Dee Hawkins – Charlotte County Fire & EMS – reviewed programs available to Charlotte County Residents
- Red Dot Medical Information Program – A Red Dot is placed above the exterior of your entry door just above your door knob to alert EMS/Fire responders that medical information is in a “red packet” on the refrigerator door. Also information is recorded in the County 911 database, so it is available to the responders prior to arriving at the scene and also to Emergency Room personnel. The red pouches are available to have in golf carts and/or vehicles. Red Dot sign up packets are available at the island fire station or online: Red Dot Program or call (941) 833-5600.
- Knox Home Box: Keys to the home are placed in the Knox Box and EMS/Fire Rescue have the master key – saves valuable time in case nobody can answer the door and/or not at home in case of fire. More information: on line www.KnoxHomeBox.com or call (855)438-5669.
- Save Our Pet Stickers: Place near the front door to alert responding personnel that a pet is in the house. If no one is available to care for your pets, Animal Control will be notified and will provide the proper assistance to the pet’s owner for the care of the animal until the owner is capable to arrange for the pet’s care. “Save Our Pet” stickers cost $3. 941-86-33-5600
- Reflective Address Markers: Charlotte County Fire & EMS will provide reflective address markers to be placed on your property so they are clearly visible from the street. Cost $25 Installation is free. 941-833-5600
- Safety Tips: For more information on all programs on line: Charlotte County Emergency Mgmt. or call (941)833-5600.
- Flicker of Life –Helps emergency workers find their way to your door. Light is used in a normal way but when you have an emergency you turn the light switch off and then back on, this will cause the light to flash on and off for 20 minutes. 941-833-5600
- Replace all Smoke/Fire alarms in the home after ten years even if they test okay. Local Fire personnel are available to assist you with replacement of alarms/batteries provided it does not require electrical work. To arrange an appointment call headquarters (941)833-5600. (do not contact local fire station personnel)
- Sprinkler Systems – recommend owner review the owner manual or contact manufacturer representative for testing requirements. All systems are different.
- AED – ( Automated External Defibrillator) Ensure that locations of AEDs on the island are identified. Also recommended that several be placed on homes throughout the island and locations communicated to all residents.
- Emergency Procedures: Recommended that all homes and rental properties have an emergency procedure information sheet – readily available in the home (inside cabinet door one possibility) with the correct street address, location of fire extinguishers, etc. Also recommended in all home for use by visitors.
When calling 911 – use landline if available – their system will show the location immediately. If calling from a cell phone be sure to give the correct full STREET address – do not say Palm or Gulf Blvd make sure you identify it as Palm Drive and Gulf Blvd North, etc. Within Charlotte County there are several streets with the name Palm or Gulf, etc. Also identify that you are on Palm Island Resort, Don Pedro, or Knight Island -
Stressed: DO NOT DRIVE TO FIRE STATION OR BARGE – wait for EMS personnel to come to the address given. DO NOT GO DIRECTLY TO THE FIRE STATION. Call 911, fire station personnel could be on another call, doing island inspections, etc.
Texting available – however use only when unable to talk – one example: a home invasion and you are hiding in a closet.
Magic Jack phone systems MUST have your FL address.
NON EMERGENCY TELEPHONE #: (941) 639-0013
Regarding 911 Calls
Rescue 14 gets called first because they have the ambulance which will transport you to a medical facility. The 911 operators will also inform station #10 and they will be contacted on every call regarding our Island. They will administer to you while the ambulance is enroute. Only the ambulance can transport you.
If you go to Fire Station #10, and knock on the door, they still have to call for the ambulance( Rescue 14) and precious time is wasted. CALL 911. They emphasized that we should not hesitate to make a 911 call. When in doubt….CALL. They will evaluate your situation and if you don’t need to be transported by ambulance you may decide that someone drive you. They are here to help us any way they can, but call 911 first.
Be specific as to your address: Street number, Street name, Knight Island, Don Pedro Island, Palm Island Resort. Palm Island Resort is located on Knight Island. You can also say Station #10 is on Island.
In An Emergency your address information needs to be clearly posted in your home for friends and family.
Recap of Meeting Regarding Fire Service on the Island
February 14, 2018 Reported by Sally Johnson
Info Central Guest Speaker: Bill Van Helden, Fire Chief
FACTS:
New Fire Station
ISO Ratings
February 14, 2018 Reported by Sally Johnson
Info Central Guest Speaker: Bill Van Helden, Fire Chief
FACTS:
New Fire Station
- Location: Facility Management Director Dave Milligan has not yet defined where the new location may be. Chief stated they prefer it be north of the bridge and have water access. They cannot use the current building and location because not enough property to accommodate the requirements of the new station and not cost effective (nearly impossible) to retrofit the building to meet current codes, including ADA, wind, space etc.
- Design/Size: Ideally will be two story (tilt wall construction); will be able to accommodate up to six firemen/paramedics when emergency situations demand, have a meeting room that can be used as triage facility (Casualty Collection Area) in case of emergency; accessible to water and have capabilities of docking new fire boat. Residents may be able to use community room (will have to wait for approval after building is complete). Designed to be used during Tropical Storms; not hurricanes.
- Estimated Time Frame: Expect to take 2-1/2 yrs. However, depends on approvals from all the governmental agencies including FEMA, Corp of Engineers, etc. With no undue delays should be ready in 2019.
- Cost: 3.6 Million to be funded thru the Charlotte County Capital Improvement Fund – no additional cost to the island residents. Purchase of land is included in the cost estimates.
- Current Location: Too early to determine what will be done with current location/building.
- New Fire Boat has been purchased just waiting for Coast Guard approval. It has twin inboard diesels with jet drive and can pump 1250 gallons per minute.
ISO Ratings
- Fire Chief stated in his opinion there is nothing that the residents can do to lower the ISO rating even if the number of full time personnel was increased to 4 and increased the water pressure – the rating is determined by the insurance companies and because this is an island, insurance industry relies very heavily on time it would take to get personnel and equipment to the emergency. Stated that even if barge ran 24/7 it would not affect the rating because of time to load equipment on and off barge.
- Staffing: Current budget for 2019 is approximately $600,000 for two personnel, four personnel would increase the cost to $1,200,000 which would be paid for by the residents. Current salaries are based on the average pay for fire fighters throughout the entire county, not actual costs of current employees. Also, we are not charged for administrative fees. Current federal law states in order to fight a fire there must be a minimum of four personnel on site (some fires could require 18 or more), two inside the structure and two outside; however in case of personal safety – they can enter the structure with only two available, and can also begin fighting the fire from the exterior. Fire Chief stated that as soon as a call comes in it not only goes to the Island Station it goes to the nearest fire station and their equipment/personnel are dispatched immediately.
- Water Pressure – representative from Bocilla Utilities (Eileen Montanez) was at the meeting and agreed that they would work with the Fire Department to test the flow rate on our hydrants – meeting to be set up to arrange a time.
- Dry Hydrants – stated they are very difficult to work with and would not affect rating.